Comments on: Help Wanted: Can Your Servers Host a Feature Film? http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/ Formerly America's Best-Loved Unknown Cartoonist, now independently animating a feature film, "Sita Sings the Blues." Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:51:32 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Alleycat Studio http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/comment-page-1/#comment-31943 Alleycat Studio Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:18:13 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/#comment-31943 Ironically, with all the positive reviews (and viewing opportunities) Sita is getting, I'm betting there's going to be an uptick in sales of Annette Hanshaw music as a result! So the copyright holders would be kinda dumb not to realize it's free advertising for them! Ironically, with all the positive reviews (and viewing opportunities) Sita is getting, I’m betting there’s going to be an uptick in sales of Annette Hanshaw music as a result! So the copyright holders would be kinda dumb not to realize it’s free advertising for them!

]]> By: Michelle http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/comment-page-1/#comment-30860 Michelle Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:13:15 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/#comment-30860 Nina, I just finished watching the Independent Spirit Awards and had never heard of Sita Sings the Blues. I am an illustrator who loves Hindu/Indian art as well as the blues and am dying to see this film. Your work and stylization of the characters is amazing. Just saw the trailer and cant sleep till I see it. Thank you for your art, you inspire me. Nina,

I just finished watching the Independent Spirit Awards and had never heard of Sita Sings the Blues. I am an illustrator who loves Hindu/Indian art as well as the blues and am dying to see this film. Your work and stylization of the characters is amazing. Just saw the trailer and cant sleep till I see it. Thank you for your art, you inspire me.

]]> By: Drakar http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/comment-page-1/#comment-30801 Drakar Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:04:53 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/#comment-30801 BTW: for what it's worth, I believe there is the capability for bittorrents, when set up correctly, to use what they call "http seeds" or "web seeds", which are seeds sourced from a web server. In that case, the http server (i.e. just a regular web server) would be in charge of distribution when there are no other seeds, but when other seeds are present, it takes much (or all) of the load off the http server. Such a system could be set in place to make sure the downloads never completely "die", as it were. Also it seems as if several different servers can all act as "web seeds" to share the burden. BTW: for what it’s worth, I believe there is the capability for bittorrents, when set up correctly, to use what they call “http seeds” or “web seeds”, which are seeds sourced from a web server. In that case, the http server (i.e. just a regular web server) would be in charge of distribution when there are no other seeds, but when other seeds are present, it takes much (or all) of the load off the http server. Such a system could be set in place to make sure the downloads never completely “die”, as it were. Also it seems as if several different servers can all act as “web seeds” to share the burden.

]]> By: Drakar http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/comment-page-1/#comment-30793 Drakar Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:46:31 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/#comment-30793 Nina: about the huge, film-quality files being hosted online: either you or mr. Fogel should contact the people at BitTorrent.com directly; AFAIK they are eager for projects like this to release completely legally as well as stretching the limits of what the technology can do. BTW: currently blu-ray movies are encoded (in HD resolution) in a format called h264 (or something very similar); they end up being a single, 4 - 10 gig file, and nearly flawless quality for HDTV viewing. I hope you might investigate an encoding at about this level, in addition to whatever else you may do. I appreciate that you want to make the *super huge* versions available for download as well, but keeping those well seeded in any way might be a stretch for the moment (even if there are seeds, it's hard to get a consistent download of just that much data all at once). It might be different though if you are planning to break the image sequences up into smallish scenes, which could be numbered in order and seeded by different people in different places, and no one part would be too difficult to download via torrent over a fast connection... I'll keep my eyes open in case I see any other interesting solutions, too. BTW i'm really hungry to download any sort of good-quality rip; a DVD rip surfaced last week on the torrent sites, and it's decent and watchable, but MANY compression artifacts to the point of being distracting. It was nice to actually see the whole movie, though. Nina:
about the huge, film-quality files being hosted online: either you or mr. Fogel should contact the people at BitTorrent.com directly; AFAIK they are eager for projects like this to release completely legally as well as stretching the limits of what the technology can do.

BTW: currently blu-ray movies are encoded (in HD resolution) in a format called h264 (or something very similar); they end up being a single, 4 – 10 gig file, and nearly flawless quality for HDTV viewing. I hope you might investigate an encoding at about this level, in addition to whatever else you may do.

I appreciate that you want to make the *super huge* versions available for download as well, but keeping those well seeded in any way might be a stretch for the moment (even if there are seeds, it’s hard to get a consistent download of just that much data all at once). It might be different though if you are planning to break the image sequences up into smallish scenes, which could be numbered in order and seeded by different people in different places, and no one part would be too difficult to download via torrent over a fast connection… I’ll keep my eyes open in case I see any other interesting solutions, too.

BTW i’m really hungry to download any sort of good-quality rip; a DVD rip surfaced last week on the torrent sites, and it’s decent and watchable, but MANY compression artifacts to the point of being distracting. It was nice to actually see the whole movie, though.

]]> By: Cristina http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/comment-page-1/#comment-30212 Cristina Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:49:39 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/#comment-30212 Break it up and release it in episodes. Break it up and release it in episodes.

]]> By: Esn http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/comment-page-1/#comment-29782 Esn Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:42:45 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/#comment-29782 Yes, I understand that. But I think that setting up a torrent for the large file would make sense, rather than just having a regular download from a server. Even if nobody sticks around to seed the file, at least those downloading at the same time as someone else would be able to use the servers of the other downloaders, rather than all of the load being on the original host site. Yes, I understand that. But I think that setting up a torrent for the large file would make sense, rather than just having a regular download from a server. Even if nobody sticks around to seed the file, at least those downloading at the same time as someone else would be able to use the servers of the other downloaders, rather than all of the load being on the original host site.

]]> By: admin http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/comment-page-1/#comment-29779 admin Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:18:33 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/#comment-29779 To clarify, as I wrote <a href="http://www.questioncopyright.org/sita_hosting#comment-4665" rel="nofollow">here</a>: Of course we want 4GB DVD files circulating, and smaller, more compressed versions as well. But someone, somewhere, should host the large files, because honestly I don't want to have to buy a hard drive and go to the post office every time someone needs them. If someone wants to start a business distributing hard drives with the big files by mail, fine; but the files should still be freely available to anyone with an internet connection and sufficient patience. These huge files aren't <i>instead of</i> more convenient forms, they're <i>in addition to</i>. To clarify, as I wrote here:

Of course we want 4GB DVD files circulating, and smaller, more compressed versions as well.

But someone, somewhere, should host the large files, because honestly I don’t want to have to buy a hard drive and go to the post office every time someone needs them. If someone wants to start a business distributing hard drives with the big files by mail, fine; but the files should still be freely available to anyone with an internet connection and sufficient patience. These huge files aren’t instead of more convenient forms, they’re in addition to.

]]> By: Esn http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/comment-page-1/#comment-29776 Esn Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:07:46 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/#comment-29776 Nina, do you mean a single file 500-600GB in size? I am certainly no expert, but that seems beyond the comfortable scope of current technology. Maybe in 5 years it will be normal... If you do find places willing to host it, I still think that setting up an official torrent/ed2k/etc. would be the best idea ("official" as in "it's always guaranteed that at least one full source file will be online"). Peer-to-peer isn't any less convenient and reduces stress on the central servers. Nina, do you mean a single file 500-600GB in size? I am certainly no expert, but that seems beyond the comfortable scope of current technology. Maybe in 5 years it will be normal…

If you do find places willing to host it, I still think that setting up an official torrent/ed2k/etc. would be the best idea (“official” as in “it’s always guaranteed that at least one full source file will be online”). Peer-to-peer isn’t any less convenient and reduces stress on the central servers.

]]> By: PBJ http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/comment-page-1/#comment-29758 PBJ Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:41:36 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/#comment-29758 Hey Nina, That's awesome about channel 13. I don't know anyone who can help with server space...Have you considered joining webcomicsinc.com? They're a pretty supportive group and you may be able to find some leads that way. Looking forward to finally seeing Sita on PBS! I started reading your blog way back when you started the project and it's been amazing to see the progress. PBJ Hey Nina,

That’s awesome about channel 13. I don’t know anyone who can help with server space…Have you considered joining webcomicsinc.com? They’re a pretty supportive group and you may be able to find some leads that way.

Looking forward to finally seeing Sita on PBS! I started reading your blog way back when you started the project and it’s been amazing to see the progress.

PBJ

]]> By: admin http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/comment-page-1/#comment-29592 admin Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:16:40 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/02/12/help-wanted-can-your-servers-host-a-feature-film/#comment-29592 Torrents will happen organically, we're looking for "seed" servers. We'll be mailing giant files on hard drives to those servers, files way too big to conveniently transfer online. But they need to be made available for inconvenient transfer online by someone else. Lots of people can host 4GB DVD files; the question is, who's gonna host the film-resolution image sequences? Torrents will happen organically, we’re looking for “seed” servers. We’ll be mailing giant files on hard drives to those servers, files way too big to conveniently transfer online. But they need to be made available for inconvenient transfer online by someone else. Lots of people can host 4GB DVD files; the question is, who’s gonna host the film-resolution image sequences?

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