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	<description>Formerly America's Best-Loved Unknown Cartoonist, now independently animating a feature film, "Sita Sings the Blues."</description>
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		<title>By: tikomiko</title>
		<link>http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/11/06/how-much-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-38450</link>
		<dc:creator>tikomiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Nina,
whatever you choose is cool, but consider dumping Flash; Adobe and its products are so very much against the spirit of open source. Have a look at Alchemy al dot chemy dot org and MyPaint, which have been used by David Revoy for the preproduction work on the Blender Durian project. Also check Albinal&#039;s use of 3D software to make 2D animation (vimeo.com/ albinal). All the softwares mentioned are free &amp; open source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Nina,<br />
whatever you choose is cool, but consider dumping Flash; Adobe and its products are so very much against the spirit of open source. Have a look at Alchemy al dot chemy dot org and MyPaint, which have been used by David Revoy for the preproduction work on the Blender Durian project. Also check Albinal&#8217;s use of 3D software to make 2D animation (vimeo.com/ albinal). All the softwares mentioned are free &amp; open source.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Battle</title>
		<link>http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/11/06/how-much-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-38416</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Battle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say open up the composition-- a square canvas-- then enlarge the word bubble and flower to give it more prominence and give all the elements room to &quot;breathe&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say open up the composition&#8211; a square canvas&#8211; then enlarge the word bubble and flower to give it more prominence and give all the elements room to &#8220;breathe&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Baldwin</title>
		<link>http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/11/06/how-much-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-38185</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Baldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or if you want the people to look like cogs, and the memes to look warm and alive - hand draw the memes and change them over time, but make the humans into vector shapes (which you could also change over time to reflect something of the memes in their heads).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or if you want the people to look like cogs, and the memes to look warm and alive &#8211; hand draw the memes and change them over time, but make the humans into vector shapes (which you could also change over time to reflect something of the memes in their heads).</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Baldwin</title>
		<link>http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/11/06/how-much-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-38184</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Baldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, okay. I read this post and the next one in reverse order. Now I see what you&#039;re after . . ..

The vector image people seem much less warm. The static flowers don&#039;t seem out of place, but only because the people also seem to be nodes or cogs instead of actual sentient beings.

The second image is better - the people are warm and alive.

Now if you want to convey that the memes are also warm and alive, I&#039;d change the flower over time. Memes get altered by those who receive them. Otherwise they&#039;re static, unchanging, and therefore dead things invading us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, okay. I read this post and the next one in reverse order. Now I see what you&#8217;re after . . ..</p>
<p>The vector image people seem much less warm. The static flowers don&#8217;t seem out of place, but only because the people also seem to be nodes or cogs instead of actual sentient beings.</p>
<p>The second image is better &#8211; the people are warm and alive.</p>
<p>Now if you want to convey that the memes are also warm and alive, I&#8217;d change the flower over time. Memes get altered by those who receive them. Otherwise they&#8217;re static, unchanging, and therefore dead things invading us.</p>
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		<title>By: Marv Newland</title>
		<link>http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/11/06/how-much-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-38156</link>
		<dc:creator>Marv Newland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nina,

Do you know Wayne Tuell of Intermission Films? He is selling 16mm copies (no lie) of one of my movies. He would be interested in your cleverly made intermission/lobby trailer for SITA SINGS THE BLUES. If you are interested in his interest, let me know.

Marv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nina,</p>
<p>Do you know Wayne Tuell of Intermission Films? He is selling 16mm copies (no lie) of one of my movies. He would be interested in your cleverly made intermission/lobby trailer for SITA SINGS THE BLUES. If you are interested in his interest, let me know.</p>
<p>Marv.</p>
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		<title>By: John Tebeau</title>
		<link>http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/11/06/how-much-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-38154</link>
		<dc:creator>John Tebeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top one, Nina. Elegant, simple, to the point. It simply communicates your idea more effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top one, Nina. Elegant, simple, to the point. It simply communicates your idea more effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Anne Stager</title>
		<link>http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/11/06/how-much-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-38152</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Anne Stager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a cartoonist and my comment is purely based on gut feel. I prefer #1 because it is obvious.   If the recipient didn&#039;t have the brain show up until it received the message would it be stronger?   Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a cartoonist and my comment is purely based on gut feel. I prefer #1 because it is obvious.   If the recipient didn&#8217;t have the brain show up until it received the message would it be stronger?   Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Ellington</title>
		<link>http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/11/06/how-much-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-38148</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Ellington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took me a while to find substantiating reference that clarifies my last comment.  If memes can be spam, the ability to differentiate real people from bots and zombie networks is extremely valuable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReCAPTCHA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me a while to find substantiating reference that clarifies my last comment.  If memes can be spam, the ability to differentiate real people from bots and zombie networks is extremely valuable:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReCAPTCHA" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReCAPTCHA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Ellington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Ellington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still the first assay.  The meme is fully-realized in the mind of the creator/discoverer.  It buds (only?) when shared, and is again fully formed and open in the fertile mind of the beholder/receiver.  Do you want the blossom to be identical to the original?  Is the meme more vital than the impulse to share/receive?  Does the prospect of being shared excite memes?  Do they smoke afterward? Do people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still the first assay.  The meme is fully-realized in the mind of the creator/discoverer.  It buds (only?) when shared, and is again fully formed and open in the fertile mind of the beholder/receiver.  Do you want the blossom to be identical to the original?  Is the meme more vital than the impulse to share/receive?  Does the prospect of being shared excite memes?  Do they smoke afterward? Do people?</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Gould</title>
		<link>http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/11/06/how-much-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-38140</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch Gould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am the hopeless love slave of the Nina who makes Sita, but the other styles leave me utterly cold. If you&#039;ve going to commit yourself to another major project, you need to give both us and, particularly, you, yourself, characters we can all cherish. I would like to see new characters in your... what shall we call it? Flash Deco??? style!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am the hopeless love slave of the Nina who makes Sita, but the other styles leave me utterly cold. If you&#8217;ve going to commit yourself to another major project, you need to give both us and, particularly, you, yourself, characters we can all cherish. I would like to see new characters in your&#8230; what shall we call it? Flash Deco??? style!</p>
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