Comments for Nina Paley's Blog http://blog.ninapaley.com Formerly America's Best-Loved Unknown Cartoonist, now independently animating a feature film, "Sita Sings the Blues." Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:31:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.2 Comment on Information wants to be free, and so do I. by Kakaze http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10299 Kakaze Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:29:16 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10299 The trailer is already up on Archive.org...that site hosts all sorts of free videos and in every quality you want right up to DVD quality. Why not just upload the movie there? I've literally been waiting for years to see this completed and it would be absolutely horrible if someone were to pick it up and not do a damn with it. Also, maybe try contacting these people (http://www.elephantsdream.org/) and see if they have anything to say. The trailer is already up on Archive.org…that site hosts all sorts of free videos and in every quality you want right up to DVD quality. Why not just upload the movie there?

I’ve literally been waiting for years to see this completed and it would be absolutely horrible if someone were to pick it up and not do a damn with it. Also, maybe try contacting these people (http://www.elephantsdream.org/) and see if they have anything to say.

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I would just forward this to them myself, but they get so many inputs, something from you yourself is a lot more likely to get posted.

If you get this worked out, I know lots of folks would be happy to pay/donate to you for your tremendous effort. Would your copyright problems go away if it’s free, though? I mean, would they come after you for your donations? That would suck.

]]> Comment on Information wants to be free, and so do I. by Tim http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10269 Tim Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:29:08 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10269 Nina, I saw your movie at your fund raising screening last year at NYU. I will remind you that not only did my brother and I enjoy your film, my sons, both 7 and 8 at the time, enjoyed it (they didn't go to sleep and viewed all the way through). I know you are in a tough spot financially. I do understand. But please, be patient. Do not give away your film for free. Not yet. To do so guarantees that you will never derive any direct compensation for your hard work. I am more than willing to pay to see your film. It would stand to reason there are many thousands more who would do the same. I also realize you are well aware of this so are far more well informed than I. Having said that, investigate digital online viewing. Consider trying to work a deal with Itunes to screen and showcase your work. Heck, you produced the movie on their hardware. Moreover, I do believe if you can determine what your exact costs are you can very well sell direct to DVD/Bluray. In fact, your film is made for large screen Bluray viewing. I will think about ideas as they come to me. I have always been inspired by Makota Shinkai and you. Don't quit. All of this to say, don't give up!!! Tim ps. if this comes off a bit rabid sorry. You're the inspiration for many. Nina,

I saw your movie at your fund raising screening last year at NYU. I will remind you that not only did my brother and I enjoy your film, my sons, both 7 and 8 at the time, enjoyed it (they didn’t go to sleep and viewed all the way through). I know you are in a tough spot financially. I do understand. But please, be patient. Do not give away your film for free. Not yet. To do so guarantees that you will never derive any direct compensation for your hard work. I am more than willing to pay to see your film. It would stand to reason there are many thousands more who would do the same.

I also realize you are well aware of this so are far more well informed than I. Having said that, investigate digital online viewing. Consider trying to work a deal with Itunes to screen and showcase your work. Heck, you produced the movie on their hardware. Moreover, I do believe if you can determine what your exact costs are you can very well sell direct to DVD/Bluray. In fact, your film is made for large screen Bluray viewing. I will think about ideas as they come to me. I have always been inspired by Makota Shinkai and you. Don’t quit. All of this to say, don’t give up!!!

Tim

ps. if this comes off a bit rabid sorry. You’re the inspiration for many.

]]> Comment on Information wants to be free, and so do I. by Rich Webb http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10267 Rich Webb Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:29:55 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10267 IANAL but would the rules and costs associated with commercial distribution be favorably affected if the distribution was by, through, and for the benefit of a non-profit organization? I loved the clips from Sita and would happily buy -- strike that -- will happily buy a full copy when it becomes available. IANAL but would the rules and costs associated with commercial distribution be favorably affected if the distribution was by, through, and for the benefit of a non-profit organization?

I loved the clips from Sita and would happily buy — strike that — will happily buy a full copy when it becomes available.

]]> Comment on Information wants to be free, and so do I. by john http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10265 john Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:01:09 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10265 Looks like Sita's going to Ottawa, so I'll get to see it on the big screen. Yay. Looks like Sita’s going to Ottawa, so I’ll get to see it on the big screen. Yay.

]]> Comment on Information wants to be free, and so do I. by Vagi http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10225 Vagi Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:58:10 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10225 Hi Nina, I would really like to see your movie "Sita sings the Blues". I read your blog about giving it for free. Why don't you sell your own movie online ? upload it on a server, and have a download link on the movie's website with payment options. Thanks, Vagi Hi Nina,

I would really like to see your movie “Sita sings the Blues”. I read your blog about giving it for free. Why don’t you sell your own movie online ? upload it on a server, and have a download link on the movie’s website with payment options.

Thanks,
Vagi

]]> Comment on Information wants to be free, and so do I. by 'Deep http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10223 'Deep Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:45:53 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10223 Nina - The first idea comes to mind may not be a good one, but I thought I should mention it just in case: The other way to distribute Sita in high quality for free is on the various file-sharing networks (the legacy of Napster) - the most obvious one would be <a>Bit Torrent</a> (which I think is the pre-eminent peer-to-peer filesharing network these days for movies and TV shows). The upsides are that you could easily distribute a pretty high quality copy & you wouldn't have to worry about hosting and things like that. The downsides are that once it was out there, it would be out there for good (no control over the copies once in the wild) and perhaps more importantly - mostly only people who already know how to use the filesharing networks would be able to access your stuff (excluding people you might give instructions to) - that seems pretty hard. You would also still need to market it, to get people to know to look for it and to download it. You could perhaps include a "Tip Jar" screen in it at the start, end and perhaps intermission. 'deep Nina -

The first idea comes to mind may not be a good one, but I thought I should mention it just in case:

The other way to distribute Sita in high quality for free is on the various file-sharing networks (the legacy of Napster) - the most obvious one would be Bit Torrent (which I think is the pre-eminent peer-to-peer filesharing network these days for movies and TV shows).

The upsides are that you could easily distribute a pretty high quality copy & you wouldn’t have to worry about hosting and things like that. The downsides are that once it was out there, it would be out there for good (no control over the copies once in the wild) and perhaps more importantly - mostly only people who already know how to use the filesharing networks would be able to access your stuff (excluding people you might give instructions to) - that seems pretty hard.

You would also still need to market it, to get people to know to look for it and to download it. You could perhaps include a “Tip Jar” screen in it at the start, end and perhaps intermission.

‘deep

]]> Comment on Information wants to be free, and so do I. by Geeta http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10221 Geeta Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:31:48 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10221 How about glutv.com ? Not affiliated with them, s friend works there. Wonder if they might pay you. How about glutv.com ? Not affiliated with them, s friend works there. Wonder if they might pay you.

]]> Comment on Information wants to be free, and so do I. by erik davis http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10218 erik davis Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:02:53 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10218 This is distressing - Sita should get a wide release! Vimeo's a better option than youtube, to be sure. The Dr. Horrible thing is a potentially cool model, perhaps relevant to you? Otherwise, releasing via download from your site, or via torrent files? This is distressing - Sita should get a wide release! Vimeo’s a better option than youtube, to be sure. The Dr. Horrible thing is a potentially cool model, perhaps relevant to you? Otherwise, releasing via download from your site, or via torrent files?

]]> Comment on Information wants to be free, and so do I. by Dan Kassiday http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10212 Dan Kassiday Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:07:22 +0000 http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/07/18/information-wants-to-be-free-and-so-do-i/#comment-10212 This post on John August's blog might just have some helpful information on Indie film distribution through non-traditional means - http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/self-distributing-an-indie-feature. and another post about August's film the Nines and what he would have done differently - http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/nines-post-mortem Another unique distribution attempt sprung up as a result of the writer's strike with Joss Wheedon's Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog - streaming it free for a week with pay down-load available on itunes to be followed by a dvd. http://www.drhorrible.com/ Not necessarily practical for you but maybe they'll spur an idea that is practical. I hope to see your film someday - The clips you posted are great - Of course it would be even better if you find a way to make the art you want and be paid enough to live on. This post on John August’s blog might just have some helpful information on Indie film distribution through non-traditional means - http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/self-distributing-an-indie-feature.

and another post about August’s film the Nines and what he would have done differently - http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/nines-post-mortem

Another unique distribution attempt sprung up as a result of the writer’s strike with Joss Wheedon’s Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog - streaming it free for a week with pay down-load available on itunes to be followed by a dvd. http://www.drhorrible.com/

Not necessarily practical for you but maybe they’ll spur an idea that is practical.

I hope to see your film someday - The clips you posted are great - Of course it would be even better if you find a way to make the art you want and be paid enough to live on.

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